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Host
MIM says:
Greetings. We
will begin in two or three minutes, with Don Potter and Leonard
Jones. We are glad you have joined us. For your information, we
will be posting chat room office hours in the next week. We feel
the Lord is calling EagleChat to be used for His strategic
purpose, which is spiritual warfare. For more information, please
go to http://www.eaglestar.org/calltoarms/eaglecha.htm Let's open with a prayer.
Host
MIM says:
Don: Heavenly
Lord, we want to offer up this time to You as a new medium with
which to minister the worship and the warfare that we know we are
all coming into. And as people all over begin to search the heart
and begin to search their own hearts, will start to hear from
heaven and know what Your heart is for us, we pray to be able, O
God, to respond to what You are saying to us. May we war when it
is time to war, may we worship when it is time to worship. May we
understand the difference. Teach us that intercession and worship
are becoming one. Teach us that praise and the depths of praise
are locking arms with intercession as we enter into these end
times. Father, keep us from being afraid. In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Host
MIM7 says:
New_Wine:
Do you
believe the Lord uses and sanctifies the styles and types of
music that influenced us in the past (BC) and can that be
used in worship?
Can this style of
music be used in worship? For example, the chord progressions
and feel of James Brown?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: We insult
God to believe that Satan has taken away the creative power
that music has no matter what the style, and is capable of
creating something himself. Only God is creative. Basically
that means that God is after the heart of the musician and
that is what can be corrupted. Music itself has always been
God's.
Host
MIM7 says:
BE:
There is
much discussion about the actions of the congregation during
worship. Do you believe any of the current reactions to the
move of God are too extreme or distracting. And if so, should
anything be done about it?
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard on
first question: I wanted to say that when the Israelites came
out of Egypt, the Lord told the Israelites to go and borrow
from their neighbors and they had favor with them and they
gave them gold and all kinds of jewels and things, and the
actual Ark, as far as I know, was made out of that same gold
that was brought out of Egypt.
Host
MIM says:
Don, on Question
#2: This is a long answer, and I don't really know how to get
at it. The heart of God has been for years to cause His
people to act out His salvation in their lives; i.e.,
Passover, Feast of Booths, etc. All of these are enactments
of the deliverance God has given His people. Intercession is
now coming out of the closet and on to the "stage"
and each action that we are seeing during worship is a
spiritual enactment of victories won and to be won in the heavenlies. If our eyes are focused upon the Lord during
these times, the actions of others will be of little
consequence. We can then see the Father and obey the things
the Spirit is leading us to. If we stop being real with how
we are feeling now, we will never understand what it means to
worship in Spirit and in truth. We will error over and over
again, but I would rather err trying to find the Spirit of
the Lord and His will than to resist movement at all and
surely miss the Lord. I hope that answers your question.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: I was
just up in Moravian Falls and I was looking at the mountains.
When you look at the mountains, everything looks perfect and
peaceful and, as a whole, totally in balance. Underneath all
of that there were things eating each other, there were tree
dying, falling over. There were all kinds of violent things
going on. But on the outside, everything looked great. There
is a balance. What we may consider a distraction is really a
part of the whole balance of what God is doing during a
meeting sometimes.
Host
MIM says:
Addendum from Don:
There is a word in Hebrew for "dance." It is
spelled c-h-u-w-l and it means to travail, to tremble, to
writhe; it means to be in anguish, as in giving birth; to
assault, to be strong and to bring forth, longing for a
birth. This is a word that translates "dance" and
that is the dance that was done at the Feasts that Israel has
celebrated to this day. Those dances were enactments of the
victories that God had given them and that is what is
happening now.
Host
MIM2 says:
Mike: What
direction do you feel today’s worship is heading? More
passionate, exaltation....?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: At the
risk of being presumptuous, I find that the change that is
coming into worship is towards a more real approach. What is
truly in the hearts of the people and the worshipers before
God. David came before God and sang his heart whenever he
wrote a song, it was after he had either expressed his
complaint or his adoration for that same God. The word that
is used for praise is "Yadah," which means to
confess God and confess your sins. It means to be real before
the Lord. I believe that is the direction praise is going.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: I
have been working at this job of writing worship choruses for
probably about 20 years now, and I tried everything I could
to get the songs that would get people motivated and get them
hyped up. It didn't work. I believe what God is doing with me
personally right now is to have that word in due season in
the songs that I am writing. They are not longevity type
songs. They are not songs people will be singing 100 years
from now like, "A Mighty Fortress Is Our God." But
they are songs that God is speaking to me personally and, I
believe, to the body of Christ. I keep asking God for those
deep exultation songs, and what I keep getting are
"Changed Into Another Man" and "No Turning
Back". They are songs for the moment. I believe God
eventually will bring me into a place in my own life where I
can come into that place where my worship is deeper and just
with a longing in it. I don't know if that is a good answer,
because it is what God is doing with me. I don't even know if
it is a trend.
Host
MIM7 says:
Elijahteam: What is
the balance between excellence in worship ministry and the
praise that is perfected in the mouth of babes?
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: The
Lord said that to be pleasing to God, we all have to come to
Him like babies. That doesn't mean totally to be babyish;
what it means to me is to have a heart fully open, full,
trusting, and a thankful heart. Not just thankful, but almost
enthralled. Like my little daughter, Alexandria -- I come
into the room and she is enthralled with me. That is all
there is to it! It would please me just as well if she was a
brilliant musician and be enthralled with me; as a matter of
fact, it would probably please me more. So excellency, I
think, is not an affront to our child-likeness.
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The word
"babes" that Jesus was referring to is someone who
makes an unclear sound. And He used the phrase from Psalm 8
that says "did you not know that from the mouths of
babes God has ordained strength" and Jesus translates
that in Matthew saying did you not know that in the mouths of
babes God has perfected praise? Praise is strength when it
comes from the mouth of innocence; excellence is what God has
given us as a free gift. We have only to apply it to that
worship and bring a pleasing sound to the ears of the Lord.
Host
MIM7 says:
BE: Your ministry
in music seems to be focused in a warfare style rather then
worship and adoration. Have you always moved in this and do
you foresee this to be the continuing emphasis in your music?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The
answer to that is, I have never been a war-like person and I
was always solo acoustic guitar, gently worshipping God. It
was during a conference in Charlotte with Rick Joyner that
the Lord began to push me into a determined place of getting
somewhere with the people and with the Holy Spirit, and not
taking "no" for an answer. As I began to push
towards the presence of God, the band that was there came on
stage spontaneously and we all entered into a spontaneous
militant type of praise. The presence of God fell on me and I
knew this was where I had to stay for at least a season, or
until He released me from this call. Since then, He has shown
me numerous battle strategies through praise and through
worship and understanding that when Jesus entered Jerusalem
the people shouted HOSANNA, which means in Old Hebrew,
"save we pray." They were crying intercession,
which in the Hebrew means to war, as they praised the
Messiah. Warfare and worship are together.
Host
MIM7 says:
Vee: Many people I
know assume a worship leader must be male - how do you see
the role of women in worship leading?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: I am very
much for women being worship leaders. There is one in Texas
that I respect and find to be one of the strongest warriors I
have ever been around. I also find that women have a great
deal more compassion for the people and for the musicians
that are in the band. That doesn't make it a good thing,
because frequently we need to set aside what we believe the
people need to hear what God is calling us.
Our prayers are
that more women come forward and begin to show themselves as
not only great worshipers, but worship leaders as well.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: I
recently heard an interview by the lady named Star, she is a
basketball player for the female basketball team. She was
very proud of the fact that people kept saying, "She
plays like a man." I think God is very interested in
having women worship leaders. He is NOT very interested in
them acting or sounding like a man, and vice versa. He made
women, women; and men, men. He loves to hear the worship that
comes from a woman, and He likes to hear the worship that
comes from a man. Each one has their place. We have, in the
past, if we feel a woman is a strong worship leader, we get
the impression that she is man-like. That is not true. I have
been led into worship more deeply with a woman worshipping
God as a woman, no pretense was going on whatsoever. I think
the only danger, if we are going to get into any danger at
all, is us trying to say that worship is a "male
thing" and that women have to fit into that.
Host
MIM says:
From Christine: We
have to watch the stereotype that warfare is masculine and
worship is feminine.
Host
MIM7 says:
altared: Christine,
how did the Lord bring you into this place of such deep
warfare and intercession for don? Have you ever had to battle
a physical manifestation when interceding for Don?
Host
MIM says:
From Christine: I
got the call to intercession a couple of years after being
saved. The Lord has continued to train me in different
aspects or phases of intercession. We went through a period
where God trained us in warfare, and I began to move in
dance, which went on to prophetic dance. And the Lord seemed
to marry the intercession and the prophetic dance over a
period of time. As far as the physical manifestation, I have
never encountered a real sense of what I would call a true
physical manifestation but I have what are to me feel like
spiritual enactments in intercession and the warfare. There
are times when I feel there is a specific force in a specific
area and the Lord gives me a physical strategy, an enactment
to counter the assault coming from that direction. I feel
that the intercession I have is Romans 12:1, committing
ourselves totally as living sacrifices and letting the Holy
Spirit do absolutely anything He wants with us.
Host
MIM7 says:
Mike: Do you feel
there is a lot of resistance to more passionate worship
within the church? If yes how do we deal with it? I'm in the
middle of such a situation.
Host
MIM says:
From Don: If you
are a worship leader, you must submit to the authorities over
you. If they are in error concerning the reaction to worship,
the Lord will deal with them. If you are trying to bring
something to the church that you believe it needs, you will
be in error. There is a great resistance to this move of
passionate worship. But there also has to be a balance such
as between a husband and a wife, though they may be deeply in
love, they keep their personal love behind the doors of their
bedroom. The same is for us as worshippers. The real
passionate stuff is behind closed doors. In our public
worship, as in husbands and wives, we can show affection
without going too far in the realm of how much we truly love
this person. And in doing that, we do show we have a great
relationship. If we do not have that relationship privately
with God, then we are only exhibitionists in the church.
There will always be a resistance to this. On the other hand,
there is a spirit of religion that tries to stand against any
shows of emotion, any genuine brokenness before God, and any
kind of a repentant time with the Lord. I hope this is not
confusing because many things are starting to happen that we
don't understand in the church. But as we reach for the
Spirit of the Living God, who groans with utterances we
cannot understand, we cannot expect our natural minds to
grasp what only can be discerned in the Spirit.
Host
MIM2 says:
New_Wine:
If certain
styles of music offends other believers (who believe it is
soulish and even devilish), how do we answer these brothers
and sisters?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: Music is
not soulish and devilish. Music is not a performance. People
are performers, and people get soulish; and too frequently
people can become devilish. Music is not the sin.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: I
learned a long time ago from one of my pastors down in
Jacksonville, FL, Wiley Tomlinson, to always take every bit
of criticism to heart and find out if it is true first. And
then after I have searched my heart, give an answer and, if I
am right, God will vindicate me. If I am wrong, He won't.
Host
MIM7 says:
wesb:
Leonard:
You did a lot of sequencing on the first MorningStar
recording. Did you ever use sequenced music in live worship?
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: Yes.
About the first three years of our church here at MorningStar, I would sequence the whole worship service,
every week, because of the lack of musicians. But it was my
plan to, every time the right person showed up, to replace
one piece of that sequence with a live worshiper. And it
worked. The sequences sounded good, I was able to turn them
on and off at will, and I always had a piano next to me, my
guitar on, my violin on or close, and I was able to move in
and out of the Spirit very quickly that way. One by one, I
replaced that sequence with real people. There is a Scripture
in the Bible that says the rocks will cry out, and a computer
chip is actually made out of a rock -- silicone.
Host
MIM2 says:
Aslan:
To Don
& Christine, do you guys feel that you are called to
travel with your ministry or just for on specific body?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: I just
stopped being in the "music business" of 30 years,
and traveling is frightening to me at the moment! I believe
the Lord has caused me to be still, write worship songs and
worship His glorious name for a season. There may be some
travel in the future other than just to a few places with MorningStar.
Host
MIM says:
From Christine: We
have been in Moravian Falls about 8 months now, so we are
still finishing up the remodeling and the renovations for the
studio/ house that we are living in. Between that and getting
used to working full-time in ministry, which we had not done
before, we are just pretty much able not to do anything else.
But thanks for asking! :-)
Host
MIM7 says:
Elijahteam:
Are you
involved in the Moravian Falls project ? If so can you
comment on the aspect of 24 hour worship and warfare ?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: It will
take 24 hours of warfare to have 24 hours of worship! In
truth, I believe the Lord is developing 24 hour worship in
our hearts. And so that we cannot stop worshipping God, then
we will build a place in which we can stand and worship
continually. This will be in compliance with Acts 15:16,
where God said He is rebuilding that tabernacle of David just
as in days of old. That is where 24 hour or continuous praise
started.
Host
MIM2 says:
Mike:
God has
been speaking to us about religious and control spirits in
our area. this is more of the kind of resistance we have come
up against
Host
MIM says:
From Don: Come
together with as many people of like mind as possible. Not as
a mob would, to lynch someone they don't like; but come
together with like mind that you would stand against a
religious spirit, which is the spirit of control. If you go
at this by yourself or with only a few, you will surely lose.
This is something we must come into agreement with:
Leadership and lay men alike must come into agreement on this
spirit of control, or it will only control the controllers.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: I
think it is important not to, even in your mind while you are
praying, attack religious people. Because they are pretty
cool people, actually! And every one of us has to fight a
religious spirit constantly. We do it at MorningStar. We have
to fight it week by week. There is a Scripture in the Bible,
I think it is in the New American Standard, I am not positive
-- it says to learn by experience what pleases the Lord. Part
of interceding is experience, knowing what to say, knowing
how to craft your words in prayer so there is no way out for
those spirits.
Host
MIM7 says:
Zoeman:
for Don:
have you had an increase in songs since the move to the falls
Host
MIM says:
From Don: Yes,
about 150% increase. When I was in the music business, I
would labor greatly to write a song. When I finally left and
got into the Falls, the Lord began to speak His heart to and
through me, and I realized it was my own heart. In the quiet
is where creativity lies for me.
Host
MIM2 says:
Host MIM_Ministries:
Christine...what
do you see when are doing prophetic dance?
Host
MIM says:
From Christine: I
am not much of a "seeing" things with my eyes, I
have an inner sense. It is a lot of yielding to the
impressions of the Holy Spirit, just kind of laying back and
letting Him drive the machine, so to speak.
Host
MIM7 says:
RegDeb:
In one of
your conferences the glory of the Lord appeared in a cloud.
Has that been repeated and does it have an impact on your
worship expectations?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: We
haven't seen a cloud since that time, but we did fight with
the idea of there was an equation to have a cloud come to
your meetings. God quickly showed us He will not be present
at an equation. He will come, however, to our brokenness and
our worship. And since He is so creative, I don't expect to
see a repeat of anything He does.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: Right
before the October conference, we heard a lot of talk from
people saying, "I am coming for the cloud, to
bask." And something inside of me just shuddered at the
thought. I personally don't think God is going to repeat it.
Host
MIM says:
More from Don: In
Jacksonville recently, we got to a peak in one song that said
"you are the Christ when the question was asked who do
you say I am?" As we reached that peak, the power in the
building went completely off. Then it came back on within 5
seconds. This was something that couldn't happen in a
fail-safe system like this building had. I am not sure I can
call that a move of God, but it sure did fall in the house
when the lights came back on! Most of us wept for about an
hour. I cannot remember His presence being that strong
before. That is just another way God MIGHT manifest Himself
in the future.
Host
MIM2 says:
DUIF:
Where fits
the prophetic songs into this?
Host
MIM says:
Can you please
clarify -- fit into something specific or everything?
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard:
Regarding question on instruments he plays: I can probably
play any instrument I put my hands on within five minutes,
but not well. I learned at an early age that music was
basically scales, harmony and rhythm. As soon as I could pick
up an instrument, I learned the scale on it and can quickly
get something out of it. Although I feel I am only proficient
on the violin, guitar, and mandolin basically.
Host
MIM7 says:
Pilgrim:
For Don: Do
you feel that Spirit-led spontaneity is essential for more
'realism' during worship/warfare?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: I feel
that Spirit led spontaneity has to be something that the Lord
really clearly shows you to do. Others have tried on occasion
to do something similar and only wound up being an imitator
of what the people respond to. It is God we need to be
responding to and if He calls you to move spontaneously in a
song or better known as "prophetic song," then you
need to go with what He is telling you to do. It is a very
old thing in the Bible. In I Samuel 10:5, the prophet Samuel
instructs Saul to go to a certain place and a group of
prophets/musicians will be coming down from the high place
with harps and flutes, and they will play before you and they
will be prophesying. That is the first sign of the spiritual
song that we know in Scripture. It goes on to say that the
Spirit of the Lord will come upon Saul with power and he will
be changed into a different man. The spiritual song or the
prophetic song has the ability when led by God to change the
heart of a man.
Host
MIM2 says:
Statement - Mike:
I
don’t know about the rest of you but I feel the manifest
presence of God right now in Bangor, PA!!!!
Host
MIM7 says:
Mike:
I've heard
it said we should lead worship with one eye on God and the
other on the congregation. How do you feel about this?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: We will
get real cross-eyed! (AS IN KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE CROSS.)
Host
MIM2 says:
altared:
Do you guys
have any plans for more in depth teaching and equipping for
worship leaders?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: Yes. I am
writing as we speak a book of experiences so far. God is
endless in His ability to show us what worship means to Him
and what it should mean to us, so I can only hope to show
what I have seen so far, and hope that will help.
Host
MIM7 says:
DUIF:
How many of
you are going over in prophetic songs while worshipping the
Lord?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The
prophetic song has a way of coming whether you almost want it
or not. I use a song that I have written as a hopeful
invitation to the Spirit. The song is generally to do with my
heart to God, which many times turns out to be the heart of
the people that we are ministering in front of. A worship
leader is still playing the role of Levite and preparing the
sacrifice of praise that will be acceptable to God. The point
behind the prophetic song is God singing BACK to His people
His answers to their cries and peace to their hearts. The job
of worship leader is to discern the heart of the Lord which
is what the word "skill" in Hebrew means. And then
singing that heart to the people, the prophetic song.
Host
MIM7 says:
Mike:
How many
are a few. How many is a safe number to battle the control
spirit?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: We
started in a 6-member small group in a house church that
belonged to an intercessor. The intercessors prayed
continually and musicians sang in the spirit continually.
Through that the Lord began to give divine strategies with
which we could invite others to join this "cause."
If you come together with a small group, take that small
group to a larger group. Not to coerce or change their hearts
but to pray with and praise in the midst of their time with
the Lord. Then if opportunity arises to get in a larger group
of people, (like a conference of 2000 to 3000 people), take
the small group with you, have them pray and intercede for
you on stage to do the will of the Lord and the resistance
that is usually in place will not be able to cope with the
unity. I hope what I have said makes sense.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: Rick
Joyner says four of a kind beats a full house.
Host
MIM2 says:
O-Coast:
Don: It
appears that there are so many more songs that you sing to
the Lord that never see the 'light of day' so to speak. How
do you choose the songs to share with the congregation?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: About 2
minutes before we start, the Holy Spirit will give me a
glimpse of what people are feeling by what I am feeling
myself. I have only to select the song that God has
encouraged and sing it. When the hair on the back of my neck
begins to rise, I know the Father is up to something. Then I
don't feel so bad that the song is never sung again. It is
for His ears and His alone.
Host
MIM7 says:
Aslan:
Is the
stage a hindrance in corporate worship? Do we eliminate it,
or is dealing with the performance spirit adequate?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The stage
is definitely a hindrance. Performance is definitely a
hindrance. And the spirit of entertainment is the greatest
hindrance. I cannot face forward and face people and still
expect to stay in tune with the Lord. I have made a
suggestion to the MorningStar Fellowship that we build a
round stage in the middle of the room for all to surround and
all be one as we try to find the face of God. And abandon the
"stage in the front of the room" idea that we have
been using as a form of entertainment since the time of the
Greeks. The word "entertainment" in Hebrew means to
honor someone. The word "entertainment" in the
Greek means to get up in front of someone and often make mock
through jest and humor of another person. Entertainment got
lost somewhere between the Jew and the Greek. We, as
musicians, need to realize it is almost impossible to not
fall into some form of performance. We must die to it daily.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: I
think that Jesus was not afraid of the stage. It says that He
stood up in their midst at the synagogue. In my mind, He was
up at the front opening up the Scriptures and it says that
every eye was upon Him as He was opening up the Scripture and
that they marveled at His words as He said today is the
Scripture fulfilled in your ears. He used what was available.
He pushed the boat out in the water and set Himself a stage
where only He and the ocean could be seen. And of course,
most of us know there was an acoustical reason for Him doing
that. Many times that is the reason we have to have the
stage, is because of acoustics -- just so everybody can hear.
He also stood up in the midst of the Temple on the last day
of the Feast, where every person in that place could see Him.
But I don't think He was performing. He was just using what
He needed to use at the time to get His message across. I
think when we are up on the stage it is almost like a
necessary evil right now because of the size of the
congregations that we have to deal with. I don't hate it and
I don't love it. I just use it.
Host
MIM2 says:
MobileSOS:
For a new
church w/o a worship leader, what has proven to be the best
method of providing proper worship while we wait on the Lord
to send the worship leader?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The Lord
has provided for every gathering. He says where two or more
are gathered, there I am in your midst. Wherever the Lord is,
there is automatically worship. A musician or a worship
leader is really no more than someone to keep you in the same
key and offer lyrics with which they can offer praise in
unity. Any body of people who come together to worship God
can do so. And that sacrifice of praise will be acceptable to
Him. Don't automatically feel that a worship leader or a
musician is needed for this to happen. Be careful how you
pray for a worship leader or musician. Because a musician
with a hidden agenda can do more damage to the church than
can be imagined.
Host
MIM7 says:
Mike:
Do you have
any ideas on how you will recruit Levitical worshipers for
the worship center?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: God will
do all that recruiting. And the people will meet requirements
that we wouldn't even think of. He is already doing that. The
engineers are not easy to find that are first Spirit filled
but most of all qualified for that job. At this time, that is
not a question for us but a hope down the road. We must wait
on the Lord and wait for this to be a need for MorningStar,
and then we will pray that He fulfill that need.
Host
MIM2 says:
Zozzy:
About the
emerging split between the "techno/Electronica" and
"Rock/acoustic" factions amongst youths.. do you
think this could be part of Satan’s plan to stop the
body of Christ worshipping in unity??
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The
techno/rock electronic thing that has been happening for a
while has worn most people out. As a reaction to it,
acoustic, or the un-plugged world, has emerged as a result.
This is a cycle that has been happening for years and years
and will continue probably to happen. It isn't really a
split. I don't think it is going to cause a split in the
church or the body of Christ, it is just a pendulum swing.
The only music I would have a concern about is the lyrics
that are speaking of such depression and suicide and anger
against ALL society. That is where I think a split could
happen.
Host
MIM7 says:
New_Wine:
What do you
think it means when God said in Acts, that he would again
build the Tabernacle of David? The restoration of David's
Tabernacle? Is God doing that now?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The
tabernacle of David was a tent. It was a movable item. The
Scriptures say that no man will build God's house. So the
tabernacle of David will be rebuilt by God in the hearts of
man. The tabernacle was the place that His presence or the
Ark of His presence was kept. That presence was also
worshipped continually by the Levitical priesthood. 4,000
musicians were on hand to offer continuous praise, scribes
sat in the tabernacle and wrote down the utterances that came
from David in 73 of the Psalms and 49 of those Psalms are
anonymous. That means someone came in off the street, walked
into the presence of the Lord being worshipped by the
Levites, and offered a prophetic song up to the Lord and the
scribes wrote down what he sang. We have the Psalms as a
result. This is how the Lord is going to rebuild the
tabernacle of David. A song will be in the hearts of all who
love Him. And in His presence we will offer it to Him. That
is the beginning of 24 hour praise.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: In
our minds I think we get the impression that the tabernacle
of David was just dynamic all the time, never a dull time,
never a dull meeting, because that is where the presence of
God was. But it was going on for 40 years, 24 hour worship.
And out of 40 years the scribes were in there all the time --
we only got 150 Psalms out of it. That, to me, speaks that
not every single day was a jam-out God praising session. I
think we need to get out of our minds that the latter day
tabernacle of David is going to be 24 hour glory. It is going
to be 24 hour worship.
Host
MIM says:
We have 15 minutes
left. We just wanted to take a minute to first of all thank
Leonard, Don and Christine for sharing from their hearts.
Host
MIM2 says:
DUIF:
The members
of a worship team should be in absolute right standing before
God. Do you agree?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: There
would be no worship teams on the face of the earth if the
requirement to be on the team was a complete right standing
with God. But we can be in right standing with a sincere
confession of our sins in a matter of minutes. We have often
at MorningStar started worship with confessing our sins
before we ever sang a song to the King.
Host
MIM7 says:
Pilgrim:
For
Leonard: Do you have any practical advice for worship/warfare
in a small group setting. We can't seem to 'enter in' on the
same level that we can in a larger group setting.
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard:
Experience is a key. I recently led worship at a home group,
and I was the only proficient guitar player. There were about
three other guys banging, and I just basically closed my eyes
and stopped fighting them and started fighting in the Spirit.
The Scripture is clear that one can put 1,000 to flight and
two can put 10,000 to flight. We are not going to get around
that. When you have more people, there is more of a dynamic
that happens. When you have more people of the like mind, the
dynamic is even more magnified than that. I think you just
have to almost like hunker down... It is really a different
kind of warfare with a smaller group. I don't think we should
try to expect the same. But it can also be good, and actually
better in some ways. You can attack many things that you
would not be able to attack with a larger group.
Host
MIM2 says:
RegDeb:
Rick Joyner
in his book "The Harvest" said we must be one with
the "Lord of the Sabbath." Is this the key to
moving to a higher level of worship?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The word
"worship" means to fall back in Hebrew. Fall back
from what, is the question. If God is present, we will fall
back. We will, indeed, worship Him. If you are one with that
Lord of the Sabbath, and spend much time with Him, it will be
very simple to have a high level of worship. Again, I need to
repeat what I said earlier, the highest level of worship that
can be attained is at home, alone with the Lord.
Host
MIM2 says:
Aslan:
How do you
see the arts in general being released in worship?
Host
MIM says:
From Don: The
church has not made room for the arts in the past because the
word "talent" and "artist" are the same
in Scripture. They both translate "power." That
power has been feared by the church for a long time. But as
God systematically breaks the artists, they will begin to
come to the church and to that place of seeking who gave them
this gift. The church will need to open its arms to that
power that will be used in the end times to minister to the
multitudes of the lost. The arts will play a big role in
these years to come.
Host
MIM2 says:
altared:
any plans
for ww3 yet?
Host
MIM says:
From Leonard: Yes.
Host
MIM says:
I talked with Rick
today and he just came back from Switzerland. I am not sure
if it will be a full-on WW3 conference there but we are
planning to do a worship conference there next year. This is
the only thing we have heard about the next worship
conference to date. Check the Web site for updates, but you
are the first to hear about this! We are going to wind this
down. In a moment we will be asking you for a roll call.
Host
MIM2 says:
New_Wine:
I want to
thank whoever is typing for the guests.. You are doing a
TERRIFIC job!!!
Host
MIM2 says:
Marjorie is the
typist with Leonard helping
Host
MIM7 says:
altared:
have you
ever led any warfare and worship in the streets?
Host
MIM says:
From Don, Christine
and Leonard: NOT YET, BUT THAT IS WHERE WE ARE HEADED.
Host
MIM2 says:
Boanerges:
As far as
the arts are concerned. Do you see room for prophetic
theater?
Host
MIM says:
From Christine:
Absolutely. In a way, that is what the intercession is. I
just believe the Lord is really going to give us some
prophetic spiritual dramas so the more we get used to just
growing in the prophetic and that yieldedness to the Spirit,
I believe we are going to see Him authoring spontaneous
theater.
Host
MIM says:
No more questions
will be answered. We are going to do a roll call. Please
state your name, where you are from, and if you are
representing a church. Thank you.
Zozzy
says:
Dave Thwaites ;
Englishman in Switzerland's Rhine Valley, representing
Reheboth (Spaciousness) Christian church
Elijahteam
says:
Thanks Don and Leonard
from Jan and Rina Otto in Cape Town, South-Africa.
Zoeman
says:
Jeff Charlotte
NewWine
says:
Aloha! I'm Madeleine
Fernandez from Maui, Hawaii. Upcountry Christian Fellowship.
Visit our Homepage: http://www.hispraise.com email us at oilnwine@gte.net
Mike says:
Mike Streng Bangor, PA
USA Benders Mennonite Church
shiloh
is Kathleen Gabrielle from Arlington, Tx representing Sword &
Song Ministries
Pilgrim
says:
Colin Steele from
Quilcene Washington representing the 'underground church' of Quilcene.
SAW says:
<SAW> Sharon
Waldorf from Belmont,CA (SF Bay Area)
Pilgrim
says:
Paul Frantz at
Pilgrim's house co-representing the 'Undeground church' in Quilcene. :-)
Matt says:
(Matt is Matt Laws
from Mobile AL
Fruits
says:
Frode Nilsen,
Southwest of Norway, Kristen Tjeneste(Christian Ministry)
Tom says:
Tom and Alanna
Harrison Vineyard Christian Fellowship-Wichita email
harvest@harvestcommunications.com
O-Coast
says:
Forrest and Christy
Hill, Reedsport Foursquare Church, Reedsport, Oregon e-mail:
fhill@presys.com
NewWine
says:
Thank you Don,
Christine & Leonard for sharing!! Aloha and God bless
you!!! It went great!!
Host
MIM2 says:
Thanks for coming
you all
NewWine
says:
~~Aloha ke akua from
the island of Maui!!~~
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